Comments on: More SmugMug & OpenID http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/ Thought stream from SmugMug's CEO & Chief Geek Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:26:00 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9-rare hourly 1 By: Simon Willison http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-39212 Simon Willison Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:19:11 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-39212 I tried to describe some of the reasons developers benefit from OpenID in "Six cool things you can build with OpenID": http://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/25/six/ I tried to describe some of the reasons developers benefit from OpenID in “Six cool things you can build with OpenID”: http://simonwillison.net/2007/Feb/25/six/

]]> By: onethumb http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38918 onethumb Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:38:44 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38918 Another day, another blog post: http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/27/why-openid-at-smugmug/ :) Honestly, I'm surprised you guys don't seem to see what I see, but hopefully that helps. If not, I'm sure you'll let me know. Don Another day, another blog post: http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/27/why-openid-at-smugmug/

:)

Honestly, I’m surprised you guys don’t seem to see what I see, but hopefully that helps. If not, I’m sure you’ll let me know.

Don

]]> By: stevex http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38890 stevex Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:57:02 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38890 Exactly what wanderAround says - it's just a token you can use to say "this is who I am" that correlates to other content using the same token. It's great for all the places that need to identify me so they can use my ID as a key for some data, and that's it. But that still solves some real problems. Don, the reason I think people may not have covered SmugMug's OpenID support is that it may seem self-serving. I think the kind of people who know what OpenID is, and would be interesting in covering it, are naturally wary of anyone wanting (or offering) to own someone's ID. It's logical for Yahoo, Microsoft, Google, AOL, and other guys who already own someone's online ID (by virtue of being their mail provider - if you're used to giving out 'bob@hotmail.com' then using hotmail for OpenID seems logical). Using my ID at Digg, SmugMug, or any other single purpose service, seems to me to not be in the spirit of OpenID. Ideally a user would have one OpenID that they use everywhere - having every service you use offer you another OpenID just confuses things. A SmugMug OpenID would be about as useful as an @smugmug.com email address. It's just not a service people would expect to get from you. That's my take anyway. I love OpenID, but I think the natural thing is for users to either register a domain and get an ID that way, or to get it from their email/IM provider, since that's where their ID already is. Exactly what wanderAround says – it’s just a token you can use to say “this is who I am” that correlates to other content using the same token. It’s great for all the places that need to identify me so they can use my ID as a key for some data, and that’s it. But that still solves some real problems.

Don, the reason I think people may not have covered SmugMug’s OpenID support is that it may seem self-serving.

I think the kind of people who know what OpenID is, and would be interesting in covering it, are naturally wary of anyone wanting (or offering) to own someone’s ID. It’s logical for Yahoo, Microsoft, Google, AOL, and other guys who already own someone’s online ID (by virtue of being their mail provider – if you’re used to giving out ‘bob@hotmail.com’ then using hotmail for OpenID seems logical). Using my ID at Digg, SmugMug, or any other single purpose service, seems to me to not be in the spirit of OpenID.

Ideally a user would have one OpenID that they use everywhere – having every service you use offer you another OpenID just confuses things. A SmugMug OpenID would be about as useful as an @smugmug.com email address. It’s just not a service people would expect to get from you.

That’s my take anyway. I love OpenID, but I think the natural thing is for users to either register a domain and get an ID that way, or to get it from their email/IM provider, since that’s where their ID already is.

]]> By: wanderAround http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38872 wanderAround Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:20:03 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38872 I don't know about Don, but I see OpenID as a quicker alternative when posting message board entries, photo comments, wiki entries, etc. No more having to register for each and every site that you post a message, you can just enter your OpenID and then the site has as much info about yourself as you want to deliver to them. I know I'm getting tired of having to try and remember each and every login and password to sites where security isn't a big deal. I don't see it replacing logins for web sites with sensitive info like banks and whatnot. I don’t know about Don, but I see OpenID as a quicker alternative when posting message board entries, photo comments, wiki entries, etc. No more having to register for each and every site that you post a message, you can just enter your OpenID and then the site has as much info about yourself as you want to deliver to them. I know I’m getting tired of having to try and remember each and every login and password to sites where security isn’t a big deal.

I don’t see it replacing logins for web sites with sensitive info like banks and whatnot.

]]> By: Jonathan Hasson http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38776 Jonathan Hasson Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:45:29 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38776 I also agree with Robert and Brent.  On my personal blog and the blogs that I read, posts usually are included on things that are of personal interest or have immediate and direct impact to their lives.  OpenID just hasn't caught my attention because I honestly don't yet see where it positively impacts me or the folks that I know.  Any help understanding this from your perspetive would be great. Love SmugMug.   I also agree with Robert and Brent.  On my personal blog and the blogs that I read, posts usually are included on things that are of personal interest or have immediate and direct impact to their lives.  OpenID just hasn’t caught my attention because I honestly don’t yet see where it positively impacts me or the folks that I know.  Any help understanding this from your perspetive would be great.

Love SmugMug.
 

]]> By: Brent Matzelle http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38759 Brent Matzelle Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:55:21 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38759 > "Maybe you should blog about *why* you think OpenID needs to happen?" Agreed. I haven't read any testimonials about how OpenID will improve the lives of developers. Maybe you'd like to add yours? Just because AOL and MS jump on board doesn't mean that the effort is going to be successful. Microsoft Passport hasn't exactly changed the world. What makes OpenID different? I'd really love to know so I can jump on board as well. > “Maybe you should blog about *why* you think OpenID needs to happen?”

Agreed. I haven’t read any testimonials about how OpenID will improve the lives of developers. Maybe you’d like to add yours?

Just because AOL and MS jump on board doesn’t mean that the effort is going to be successful. Microsoft Passport hasn’t exactly changed the world. What makes OpenID different? I’d really love to know so I can jump on board as well.

]]> By: Robert 'Groby' Blum http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/comment-page-1/#comment-38751 Robert 'Groby' Blum Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:11:48 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/onethumb/2007/02/26/more-smugmug-openid/#comment-38751 Well, most people answer OpenID with a resounding 'Meh'. It solves one-step sign-in, yes. It doesn't solve trust. I have no way of verifying if the user is who he claims it is. All OpenID gives me is the fact that there's a website confirming that it has heard of that user. So, as somebody who runs a web site (and that's the hat most bloggers who're technical enough to follow OpenID are wearing), why am I getting excited again? Maybe you should blog about *why* you think OpenID needs to happen? Well, most people answer OpenID with a resounding ‘Meh’. It solves one-step sign-in, yes. It doesn’t solve trust. I have no way of verifying if the user is who he claims it is.

All OpenID gives me is the fact that there’s a website confirming that it has heard of that user. So, as somebody who runs a web site (and that’s the hat most bloggers who’re technical enough to follow OpenID are wearing), why am I getting excited again?

Maybe you should blog about *why* you think OpenID needs to happen?

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