Comments on: I’m *not* speaking at Cloud Computing Expo 2008 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/ Thought stream from SmugMug's CEO & Chief Geek Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:26:00 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9-rare hourly 1 By: mod converter http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-104471 mod converter Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:55:35 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-104471 Love it! You got me so excited to get one and start shooting video! Love it! You got me so excited to get one and start shooting video!

]]> By: Robert D http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103614 Robert D Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:28:19 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103614 I'm curious Don, what went wrong with the SPARC implementation? Just piss poor performance with mysql and php? Did you take measurements on the actual power usage as well? If so, how did that portion stack up? I’m curious Don, what went wrong with the SPARC implementation? Just piss poor performance with mysql and php? Did you take measurements on the actual power usage as well? If so, how did that portion stack up?

]]> By: Don MacAskill http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103613 Don MacAskill Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:17:20 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103613 @Chris Mulligan: Thanks for the kind words! Seemed bizarre to me too - I can't imagine every busy speaker gets every email, so a phone call or something would have been nice. Oh well, I was trying to them a favor. I'm happy to have my week back :) @Chris Mulligan: Thanks for the kind words! Seemed bizarre to me too – I can’t imagine every busy speaker gets every email, so a phone call or something would have been nice. Oh well, I was trying to them a favor. I’m happy to have my week back :)

]]> By: Don MacAskill http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103612 Don MacAskill Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:16:17 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103612 @Robert D: We basically fully utilize the hardware on each of our systems, so there aren't any gains to be had with virtualization (instead, there'd be losses - virtualization comes with performance overhead in addition to operational overhead). Partly that's just because we're not an enormous organization - we don't have 10,000 servers, so we can't/don't need to load shift. :) Secondly, our tests with SPARC proved to be pretty bad. We got both lower performance and higher power consumption with the CMT chips (T1000) than AMD Opteron systems, so that quickly turned into a no-go. @Robert D:

We basically fully utilize the hardware on each of our systems, so there aren’t any gains to be had with virtualization (instead, there’d be losses – virtualization comes with performance overhead in addition to operational overhead). Partly that’s just because we’re not an enormous organization – we don’t have 10,000 servers, so we can’t/don’t need to load shift. :)

Secondly, our tests with SPARC proved to be pretty bad. We got both lower performance and higher power consumption with the CMT chips (T1000) than AMD Opteron systems, so that quickly turned into a no-go.

]]> By: Robert D http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103611 Robert D Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:47:27 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103611 Don, I've been looking at alot of Sun's new products in both software and hardware. Have you investigated or at least played with the idea of virtualizing your infrastructure? Like for instance, with the big movement to virtualized environments, the underlying hardware doesn't play AS MUCH of a role anymore. So an interesting example may be, have you thought of maybe utilizing a different hardware platform like SPARC based ones that have higher performance density and lower power consumption while running linux OSs on top of it? I'm currently playing with the idea myself. I supposed for your industry the primary determinant would be any overhead caused by the virtualization. But then again, perhaps the performance gains by using a different hardware subset will more than offset any additional overhead. I'm just spouting stuff off the top of my head. Just wondered if you'd given it any thought like I am. Don, I’ve been looking at alot of Sun’s new products in both software and hardware. Have you investigated or at least played with the idea of virtualizing your infrastructure? Like for instance, with the big movement to virtualized environments, the underlying hardware doesn’t play AS MUCH of a role anymore. So an interesting example may be, have you thought of maybe utilizing a different hardware platform like SPARC based ones that have higher performance density and lower power consumption while running linux OSs on top of it? I’m currently playing with the idea myself. I supposed for your industry the primary determinant would be any overhead caused by the virtualization. But then again, perhaps the performance gains by using a different hardware subset will more than offset any additional overhead.

I’m just spouting stuff off the top of my head. Just wondered if you’d given it any thought like I am.

]]> By: Chris Mulligan http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103606 Chris Mulligan Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:29:24 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103606 That's incredibly lame on the part of the organizers. I can't imagine what sort of ridiculousness could cause them to cancel one of the best speakers they could get. They couldn't just have you sign the contract when you get there? Some people just don't get it. That’s incredibly lame on the part of the organizers. I can’t imagine what sort of ridiculousness could cause them to cancel one of the best speakers they could get. They couldn’t just have you sign the contract when you get there? Some people just don’t get it.

]]> By: Andy http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103605 Andy Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:02:08 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103605 If you had presentation slides all ready to go or anything else cloud related that's not already in your blog I'd love to see it! If you had presentation slides all ready to go or anything else cloud related that’s not already in your blog I’d love to see it!

]]> By: Marius http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103604 Marius Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:17:41 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103604 Then you should probably change the wording of the entry, because it reads like you didn't want to sign the contract. Then you should probably change the wording of the entry, because it reads like you didn’t want to sign the contract.

]]> By: Don MacAskill http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103602 Don MacAskill Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:31:37 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103602 I didn't cancel it intentionally - it was canceled on me because I let some emails from the conference people slip through the cracks. :( I didn’t cancel it intentionally – it was canceled on me because I let some emails from the conference people slip through the cracks. :(

]]> By: Daniel Lemire http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/11/17/im-not-speaking-at-cloud-computing-expo-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-103601 Daniel Lemire Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:47:54 +0000 http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/?p=487#comment-103601 What kind of crazy conditions could make you cancel a talk? They wanted you to pay? What kind of crazy conditions could make you cancel a talk? They wanted you to pay?

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